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Sports Teams or Battlefield Rejects? :P

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Interesting discussion point between Moraiwe and I in the Goldcrush thread.

Do you prefer the sporty player look or the just stepped off a battlefield and put down their mace to punch a Black Orc in the face look? :)
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Not really sure it's much of a discussion. You either like one, the other, or both. It's not like one is more right than the other.

That said, if you like sports teams your taste is bad and you should feel bad.
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Well then maybe it's just a straw poll? :P

Case in point for a brief discussion ;):

I prefer Team colours to be more uniform like (after NFL style teams) to more the players are not really wearing uniforms (like 3rd ed Undead). The more they are wearing a formal style outfit the more I am willing to use same colours but change up the position of said colours on the models.
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I think you can have a uniform look, without looking like a sports team. Formal style is good : that's why I like capes, fancy helms, CD big hats, etc.

Somewhat tangential: What I REALLY want from mini manufacturers is to take a leaf out of the Matt Groening design book: your characters (in BB, positions) should be identifiable by their silhouettte.
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Yeah I can hear that... the Human CRP team (metal) was atrocious for that. Almost as bad the BB16 humans between blitzers and linemen...

Orcs are slightly less so once you clean up some of the excessive spikes and such.
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3rd ed no sports uniform but not too battlefield-y is my perfect look.

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They shouldn't look too battlefield-y. For example, I hate teams that have clearly just been weapon-snipped. I don't like it when they are in sports uniforms though.

For example, I'm not a fan of this style:

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Olaf, compare and contrast to the Willy Ultimate Flings for example?

They are very uniform-ish... you don't like them either?

Or looking at those orcs is it just the complete lack of any armoured plate on top of the uniforms that does it? Don't look like theyd last 5 mins on the BB pitch?
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D_Arquebus wrote:Olaf, compare and contrast to the Willy Ultimate Flings for example?

They are very uniform-ish... you don't like them either?

Or looking at those orcs is it just the complete lack of any armoured plate on top of the uniforms that does it? Don't look like theyd last 5 mins on the BB pitch?
They are ok, but I prefer the Imperial Halfling team.

I think the thing with the Orcs is that the uniform does not look Orc-ish. Orcs would not have refined helmets and uniforms like those minis have. Halflings I can understand a little more.
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Halflings should have colanders and saucepans for helmets.
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I am firmly in the 'sports' end of the continuum and I think those Orcs look terrible because as mentioned they don't look Orc-ey, in addition to being sculpted by people with no idea about posing football players.

The 3rd ed minis were almost all terrible (one-inch-punch poses), but they're 25 years old - it was another era in mini production.

I have the Willy halflings, they're excellent.

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For my $0.02 I like the Sports look too. They still need armoured plates fantasy look on top though I think to win. Even the Willy Flings have external armour plates on the shoulders for instance.

That said, I find that the more uniform like the players the less I make the colours look like a uniform. The less so (like Lizards etc) the more I make the colours more consitent in the same spots to look more uniform. A self imposed/ directed balancing act to get the NFL but FANTASY look right :)
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Prefer the armoured look myself. I mean, from their point of view, they are in a sports uniform, it's just that people's ideas of sports uniforms in this setting involve iron plates and spikes rather than cushions and pads. :)
Moraiwe wrote:Somewhat tangential: What I REALLY want from mini manufacturers is to take a leaf out of the Matt Groening design book: your characters (in BB, positions) should be identifiable by their silhouettte.
Yeah, this. The 2016 BB Orcs and Humans fail hard in this regard - the Blitzers and Linos in both teams are virtually indistinguishable from an arm's length. The old minis might be goofy by today's standards, but it's really easy to see which ones are the Black Orcs.

Also, one requirement that's not normally an issue to other miniature games: Blood Bowl figures need to be in 3 distinct poses: standing, prone and stunned. Miniatures with insanely dynamic, interpretive dance poses really are a pain in the arse to lay down sometimes. This really hit home to me when I was playing my new Dwarf team at Goldcrush recently - Dwarves, FFS!

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Moraiwe wrote:Somewhat tangential: What I REALLY want from mini manufacturers is to take a leaf out of the Matt Groening design book: your characters (in BB, positions) should be identifiable by their silhouettte.
I REALLLY hate it when you say something, and i can't stop myself from agreeing.
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